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boban67tzr
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Posted - 22/03/2012 : 23:26:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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lwood
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 00:52:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paro

Eh, da su plemena od samih početaka bila složnija, bogzna kako bi to na kraju ispalo..


ma bolesti su tu bile presudne sve ostalo su detalji .
You stared at the abyss, you'll never rest in peace
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paro
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 01:14:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by paro

Eh, da su plemena od samih početaka bila složnija, bogzna kako bi to na kraju ispalo..


ma bolesti su tu bile presudne sve ostalo su detalji .


Misliš da su boleštine u pitanju, pa mogli su oni sklapat saveze bez obzira na boleštine. Previše su se međusobno klali i svađali.
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 07:39:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dsormaz1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paro

quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by paro

Eh, da su plemena od samih početaka bila složnija, bogzna kako bi to na kraju ispalo..


ma bolesti su tu bile presudne sve ostalo su detalji .


Misliš da su boleštine u pitanju, pa mogli su oni sklapat saveze bez obzira na boleštine. Previše su se međusobno klali i svađali.

Ne bi im nikakva sloga pomogla dugoročno, možda bi samo malo produžili otpor. Na kraju bi prevagnula brojčana nadmoć bijelaca, tehnologija...
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 07:57:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dsormaz1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Što se samog Custera tiče, glave mu je došla njegova svojeglavost (nije poslušao zapovijed nadređenih, po kojoj je trebao čekati dolazak glavnine vojnih snaga), pretjerana težnja za slavom, taština i tipično podcijenjivanje protivnika, kao i prevelika samouvjerenost. Lako je biti general poslije bitke, ali činjenica je da su stvari mogle ići drugim tokom da je Custer pričekao dolazak glavnine snaga na čelu s generalom Alfredom Terryjem, da je ponio sa sobom onih nekoliko strojnica Gatling koje su mu nudili i da nije glupo dijelio svoje malobrojnije snage na 4 dijela. Bilo bi jako zanimljivo vidjeti kakav bi onda bio ishod bitke.
Na kraju je prošao tako kako je prošao, tj. dobio e što je tražio i zaslužio. Poetska pravda.
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 07:59:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dsormaz1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Quanah Parker, poglavica Komanča
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paro
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 10:36:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dsormaz1
Ne bi im nikakva sloga pomogla dugoročno, možda bi samo malo produžili otpor. Na kraju bi prevagnula brojčana nadmoć bijelaca, tehnologija...


Pa bilo bi zanimljivije da nije bio samo jedan Little Big Horn nego 3-4 LBH-a.
Otkud čupate ove izvrsne fotke?
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 11:03:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Paro, brate u tuđini,

Evo ti adrese za ove fotke:

http://amertribes.proboards.com/index.cgi

http://www.firstpeople.us/

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=quanah%20parker

http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=36725

http://americanart.si.edu/collections/search/artwork/results/?id=782




Čejeni, 1879.godina……………
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 11:21:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote



Čejeni…..
Edited by - boban67tzr on 05/05/2012 17:51:07
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 11:59:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hoćete da slušate muziku Indiosa?

U tom slučaju, evo vam ovo :

http://www.radioantenasur.com.pe/

http://radio-andina.blogspot.com/

http://www.melodiasdelande.com/

http://tunein.com/radio/Native-g156/
Edited by - boban67tzr on 23/03/2012 15:18:35
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 18:53:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Poštovani prijatelji, ako želite da u svojoj kolekciji imate jednu APSOLUTNO NEPONOVLJIVU knjigu o Čejenima, jednom od najfascinantnijih plemena Severne Amerike, posetite ovaj LINK ispod.
Knjigu možete preuzeti u PDF formatu.
Na engleskom je, ali to neće biti problem, zar ne?


http://ia700301.us.archive.org/10/items/fightingcheyenn01gringoog/fightingcheyenn01gringoog.pdf
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lwood
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 19:11:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paro

quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by paro

Eh, da su plemena od samih početaka bila složnija, bogzna kako bi to na kraju ispalo..


ma bolesti su tu bile presudne sve ostalo su detalji .


Misliš da su boleštine u pitanju, pa mogli su oni sklapat saveze bez obzira na boleštine. Previše su se međusobno klali i svađali.


ma dobro to stoji,al sve je to ljudski.mislin svuda se ljudi kolju. zbog bolesti je rapidno pa broj ljudi u relativno kratko vrime.
al opet da su se i ujedinili mogli su pružit značajniji otpor iako bi rezultat vjerovatno bia isti.
You stared at the abyss, you'll never rest in peace
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 19:38:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote

A evo і link za još jednu odličnu knjigu o Indijancima, u PDF formatu:


http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/cgsc/carl/download/csipubs/collins_cheyenne.pdf
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 24/03/2012 : 17:06:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Možda je Kaster video ovakav prizor, kada je konačno ugledao Indijanski logor na Litl Big Hornu, u kome je bilo između 2.500 і 3.00 tipija, sa 15. 000 Indijanaca, od čega 2.500 do 4.000 ratnika i sa oko 30.000 konja.








SLIKA U PUNOJ VELICINI:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Grabill_-_Hostile_Indian_camp.jpg



Ili ovako sto............





http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Grabill_-_Villa_of_Brule-1.jpg
Edited by - boban67tzr on 25/03/2012 19:28:06
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ned_lynx
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 20:56:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ned_lynx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fotogalerija: Severnoamerički Indijanci - Pripremio Milan Živanović - Gde je beli čovek pogrešio
Piši propalo!
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emirem
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 17:56:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send emirem a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ned_lynx

Fotogalerija: Severnoamerički Indijanci - Pripremio Milan Živanović - Gde je beli čovek pogrešio




Dobar link,kupio sam knjigu fotografija od Curtisa,doduse manje neko izdanje ,a ima i luksuznih izdanja....
http://www.bookdepository.com/Edward-S-Curtis-Hans-Christian-Adam/9783836507912
"Kompromisi u kolekcionarstvu su one stvari koje ce ti omoguciti da dozivis starost sa pozamasnom ustedjevinom!"
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 18:01:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Apsolutno sve fotografije koje je Curtis napravio, naći čete ovde !!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Pictures/American-Indians-00.html
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 18:36:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 22:39:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote

NOVE FOTKE!!!!!!!


http://www.blackranger.com/AmericanIndians/american_indians.htm
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red cloud
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Posted - 27/03/2012 : 07:16:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send red cloud a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Odlicno Bobane, samo tako nastavi!
Nasilje u Darkvudu
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 27/03/2012 : 09:29:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kolekcija Karla Bodmera, jednog od najboljih slikara tematike Divljeg Zapada:



http://www.valdosta.edu/~mgnoll/Karl%20Bodmer/Karl_Bodmer.htm

...na odabranu sliku kliknite OPEN IMAGE, da bi bila u punoj velicini......
Edited by - boban67tzr on 27/03/2012 10:35:28
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 27/03/2012 : 11:16:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mandan Indijanci.....





http://arthistory.about.com/od/from_exhibitions/ig/charles_m_russell_masterworks/cmrretro_dam_1209_06.htm
Edited by - boban67tzr on 27/03/2012 13:44:10
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emirem
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Posted - 27/03/2012 : 17:35:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send emirem a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Call him drunken Ira Hayes
He won't answer anymore
Not the whiskey drinkin' Indian
Nor the Marine that went to war

There they battled up Iwo Jima's hill,
Two hundred and fifty men
But only twenty-seven lived to walk back down again

And when the fight was over
And when Old Glory raised
Among the men who held it high
Was the Indian, Ira Hayes


Sjetio se Windtalkera...dobar film!
Iako nema Iwo jime u filmu,ali sustina je tu u pjesmi.
"Kompromisi u kolekcionarstvu su one stvari koje ce ti omoguciti da dozivis starost sa pozamasnom ustedjevinom!"
Edited by - emirem on 27/03/2012 17:35:55
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 28/03/2012 : 15:13:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Klikni ovde, ima knjiga..........

www.google.rs%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3Dstealing%2Bhorses%2Band%2Bhostile%2Bconflict%2B1833-1834%2Bdrawings%2Bof%2Bmato-tope%2Band%2Bsih-chida%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CCIQFjAA%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fdigitalcommons.unl.edu%252Fcgi%252Fviewcontent.cgi%253Farticle%253D1017%2526context%253Dartstudents%26ei%3DjR9zT_OQE6iy0QWGg4QF%26usg%3DAFQjCNG5WUCvMbcaXCNSvvnquioZzb2mMA#search=%22stealing%20horses%20hostile%20conflict%201833-1834%20drawings%20mato-tope%20sih-chida%22" target="_blank">http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1017&context=artstudents&sei-redir=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.rs%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3Dstealing%2Bhorses%2Band%2Bhostile%2Bconflict%2B1833-1834%2Bdrawings%2Bof%2Bmato-tope%2Band%2Bsih-chida%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CCIQFjAA%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fdigitalcommons.unl.edu%252Fcgi%252Fviewcontent.cgi%253Farticle%253D1017%2526context%253Dartstudents%26ei%3DjR9zT_OQE6iy0QWGg4QF%26usg%3DAFQjCNG5WUCvMbcaXCNSvvnquioZzb2mMA#search=%22stealing%20horses%20hostile%20conflict%201833-1834%20drawings%20mato-tope%20sih-chida%22
Edited by - boban67tzr on 28/03/2012 16:35:43
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boban67tzr
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Posted - 28/03/2012 : 20:03:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boban67tzr a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Alo, obrati pažnju !!!!!!

Ispod je link za jednu ALI NEVIĐENO DOBRU KNJIGU, doduše opet na engleskom, al šta mari……

http://www.eso-garden.com/specials/american_indian_tribes.pdf
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