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Poli
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Poli
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 Posted - 20/01/2015 : 12:49:30
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Mislim da bi nas vecina zazmurila na oba oka da sada sravne sa zemljom sve gradove i sela gdje se zadrzava ISIL (ionako su zapadne sile veliku odlucnost u tome da zazmure na oba oka kada se ubijaju civili --> Palestina).
Al' hebiga kad "Zapadnjacima" zapravo odgovara pustosenje ISIL-a, a jos 2-3 napada u Europi pa ce pjevati od srece kada nastupe novi zakoni kojima teze i pocne se proganjivanje muslimana.
A Izrael radije napada Asada nego ISIL. Who's the real Kekec? :D
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Kruger
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Posted - 20/01/2015 : 14:11:55
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Još uvijek se vode žestoke borbe u Ukrajini, prema vojnim analitičarima razlog za te akcije je uskoro potpisivanje prekida vatre. Pa obje strane žele zauzeti povoljniju poziciju prije potpisivanja sporazuma o prekida vatre.
Što se tiče Donjecke zračne luke, urušio se drugi kat na glavnom terminalu, pa ima dosta mrtvih i ranjenih, teroristi su napali ukrajinske snage ali su odbijeni. Područje Donjecke zračne luke je neprekidno pod topničkom vatrom terorista.
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Poli
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Poli
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Posted - 21/01/2015 : 09:08:27
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Turska je sramota Europe, kao i islamista Erdogan!
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/01/turkey-syria-intelligence-service-shipping-weapons.html#
According to information published on and then banned from the Internet in Turkey, on Jan. 19, 2014, the prosecutor of an Adana court instructed
the Adana Provincial Gendarmerie Command to stop and search three trucks. (photo by Anonymous)
Turkish military says MIT (Turska nacionalna obavjestajna organizacija) shipped weapons to al-Qaeda
Secret official documents about the searching of three trucks belonging to Turkey's national intelligence service (MIT) have been leaked online, once again corroborating suspicions that Ankara has not been playing a clean game in Syria. According to the authenticated documents, the trucks were found to be transporting missiles, mortars and anti-aircraft ammunition. The Gendarmerie General Command, which authored the reports, alleged, "The trucks were carrying weapons and supplies to the al-Qaeda terror organization.” But Turkish readers could not see the documents in the news bulletins and newspapers that shared them, because the government immediately obtained a court injunction banning all reporting about the affair.
When President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was prime minister, he had said, “You cannot stop the MIT truck. You cannot search it. You don’t have the authority. These trucks were taking humanitarian assistance to Turkmens.”
Since then, Erdogan and his hand-picked new Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu have repeated at every opportunity that the trucks were carrying assistance to Turkmens. Public prosecutor Aziz Takci, who had ordered the trucks to be searched, was removed from his post and 13 soldiers involved in the search were taken to court on charges of espionage. Their indictments call for prison terms of up to 20 years.
In scores of documents leaked by a group of hackers, the Gendarmerie Command notes that rocket warheads were found in the trucks' cargo.
According to the documents that circulated on the Internet before the ban came into effect, this was the summary of the incident:
- On Jan. 19, 2014, after receiving a tip that three trucks were carrying weapons and explosives to al-Qaeda in Syria, the Adana Provincial Gendarmerie Command obtained search warrants.
- The Adana prosecutor called for the search and seizure of all evidence.
- Security forces stopped the trucks at the Ceyhan toll gates, where MIT personnel tried to prevent the search.
- While the trucks were being escorted to Seyhan Gendarmerie Command for an extensive search, MIT personnel accompanying the trucks in an Audi vehicle blocked the road to stop the trucks. When MIT personnel seized the keys from the trucks' ignitions, an altercation ensued. MIT personnel instructed the truck drivers to pretend their trucks had malfunctioned and committed physical violence against gendarmerie personnel.
- The search was carried out and videotaped despite the efforts of the governor and MIT personnel to prevent it.
- Six metallic containers were found in the three trucks. In the first container, 25-30 missiles or rockets and 10-15 crates loaded with ammunition were found. In the second container, 20-25 missiles or rockets, 20-25 crates of mortar ammunition and Douchka anti-aircraft ammunition in five or six sacks were discovered. The boxes had markings in the Cyrillic alphabet.
- It was noted that the MIT personnel swore at the prosecutor and denigrated the gendarmerie soldiers doing the search, saying, "Look at those idiots. They are looking for ammunition with picks and shovels. Let someone who knows do it. Trucks are full of bombs that might explode.”
- The governor of Adana, Huseyin Avni Cos, arrived at the scene and declared, “The trucks are moving with the prime minister’s orders” and vowed not to let them be interfered with no matter what.
- With a letter of guarantee sent by the regional director of MIT, co-signed by the governor, the trucks were handed back to MIT.
- Driver Murat Kislakci said in his deposition, “This cargo was loaded into our trucks from a foreign airplane at Ankara Esenboga Airport. We are taking them to Reyhanli [on the Syrian border]. Two men [MIT personnel] in the Audi are accompanying us. At Reyhanli, we hand over the trucks to two people in the Audi. They check us into a hotel. The trucks move to cross the border. We carried similar loads several times before. We were working for the state. In Ankara, we were leaving our trucks at an MIT location. They used to tell us to come back at 7 a.m. I know the cargo belongs to MIT. We were at ease; this was an affair of state. This was the first time we collected cargo from the airport and for the first time we were allowed to stand by our trucks during the loading."
- After accusations of espionage by the government and pro-government media, the chief of general staff ordered the military prosecutor to investigate,. On July 21, the military prosecutor declared the operation was not espionage. The same prosecutor said this incident was a military affair and should be investigated not by the public prosecutor, but the military. The civilian court did not retract its decision.
The government cover-up
Though the scandal is tearing the country apart, the government opted for its favorite tactic of covering it up. A court in Adana banned written, visual and Internet media outlets from any reporting and commenting on the stopping of the trucks and the search. All online content about the incident has been deleted.
The court case against the 13 gendarmerie elements accused of espionage has also been controversial. The public prosecutor, who in his indictment said the accused were involved in a plot to have Turkey tried at the International Criminal Court, veered off course. Without citing any evidence, the indictment charged that there was collusion between the Syrian government, al-Qaeda and the Islamic State (IS). The prosecutor deviated from the case at hand and charged that the killing by IS of three people at Nigde last year was actually carried out by the Syrian state.
At the moment, a total blackout prevails over revelations, which are bound to have serious international repercussions.
"As Erdoğan said the law is clear - members of MIT (carrying out operations approved by him) cannot be prosecuted. However, that does not mean that they are above the law or the constitution ie they can be arrested if they are suspected of committing a crime or about to commit a crime - it will just be more difficult to prosecute them but, at least, the country will know who is protecting the criminals."
Tursku, tu sramotu Europe, je vec davno trebalo sutnuti iz Nata! 
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panzer
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Posted - 21/01/2015 : 09:20:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Poli
Tursku, tu sramotu Europe, je vec davno trebalo sutnuti iz Nata!
Treba Nato ukinuti ... |
Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier! |
Edited by - panzer on 21/01/2015 09:23:27 |
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Poli
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Posted - 21/01/2015 : 10:27:00
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Originally posted by panzer
Treba Nato ukinuti ...
A kako ce onda pljackati drzave koje su u njemu? 
Ma, snasli bi se oni vec.  
A za Tursku se ionako zna gdje stoji ... ovo nije jedini plakat u Turskoj, bili su i prosvjedi protiv "Charlieja", u potporu teroristickoj braci Kouchi
ovo je iz podrucja pod vlascu Erdoganove stranke AKP
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/01/turkey-france-charlie-hebdo-humor-turkish-islamist.html
ne čudi me plakat. Turci su na putu reislamizacije.
biče zanimljivo vidit kakva če bit zemlja za kojih 5-10 godina.
oče li odbacit dokraja kemalističko naslijeđe.
a šta se tiče natoa,skuplje košta da nisi unutra.
a pošto je svit sve sjebaniji bolje bit član nego ne.
pogotovo ovim malim državama. |
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lwood
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Posted - 21/01/2015 : 10:42:08
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trenutna situacija na frontu
Crveno-Assadove snage
Grimizno crveno/crveno u Iraku- iračka vlada
Sivo-Isil
Zeleno-sirijska oporba
Žuto-Kurdi
Bijelo-Al Nusra
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Edited by - lwood on 21/01/2015 10:46:41 |
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Poli
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panzer
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Posted - 21/01/2015 : 11:14:12
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Po bloku haram
silujem
ubijam
uništavam gradove
po bloku haram
tko če me zaustaviti?
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Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier! |
Edited by - panzer on 21/01/2015 11:14:38 |
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Poli
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Posted - 21/01/2015 : 11:54:07
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neka si,i ja san stavlja negdi početkom ovog topica.
al sumnjan da nas puno to gleda u detalje.
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Posted - 21/01/2015 : 12:00:40
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5 najsmrtonosnijih sukoba 2014. :
1.Sirijski građanski rat 75-80 000 mrtvih
2.Plemenski sukobi u južnom Sudanu oko 40 000 mrtvih
3.Irački građanski rat 21-25 000 mrtvih
4.Rat u Afganistanu 14-15 000 mrtvih
5.Islamistička pobuna u Nigeriji (Boko Haram)oko 11-12 000 mrtvih
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prvi poraz osovine zla?
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bolje da nisu naucili citati (a pitanje je ako znaju, ili im samo prenose to """znanje""") 
