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BeaGea
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 Posted - 07/11/2021 : 15:06:42
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Originally posted by Tonto
Ovo vam je već drugi put da omalovažavate moje zanimanje herr profesore, što sasvim dovoljno govori o vama.
Omalovazavam? Tesko, bratic kojeg najvise volim je konobar uz par najdrazih ljudi. Samo je razlika kaj oni nemaju kompleksa, znaju jasno tko su i kaj su. Nisu frustrirani svojim zanimanjem.
...kratku s hladnim mlijekom i tekilu bez soli s casom vode!
A s tvojom insinuacijama da bisam normalan cemo kaj? Pravite se da ih nema, je li? Koliko se za takve stvari po tebi leti? |
U zamišljenom kutu okrugle sobe... |
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Chief Warhead
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 15:08:47
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Originally posted by Tonto
Ovo vam je već drugi put da omalovažavate moje zanimanje herr profesore, što sasvim dovoljno govori o vama.
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Gotovo sam siguran da taj ne bi bio u stanju da prinese jedno pivo bez predavanja o tome šta je sve neophodno da se prinese jedano pivo, kakav je to superprofesionalac... caffe Smor. |
Tri ljuta moderatora suzbijala spam.
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Jasko
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 15:17:57
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A sad smeta? Prosto je, svako ko odbije bilo kakvu lekarsku pomoć, to radi na sopstvenu odgovornost.
Ovde nema solidarnosti, jer zbog nevakcinisanih onkološki, KV pacijenti ne mogu da se leče. Običan sebičluk, jer tako mali Perica zamišlja medicinu. Dva klika i sve zna. |
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Tonto
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 15:20:45
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Originally posted by BeaGea
A s tvojom insinuacijama da bisam normalan cemo kaj? Pravite se da ih nema, je li? Koliko se za takve stvari po tebi leti?
Uopce se nije odnosilo na tebe, nego na sve redom koji tvrde da je jedan stav normalan, a suprotni nenormalan.
...dalje nastavi sam sa svojim prokazivanjem frustriranih i iskompleksiranih ljudi, ide ti. |
The less I have the more I am a happy man |
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Chief Warhead
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 15:23:55
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Originally posted by Tonto
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Originally posted by BeaGea
A s tvojom insinuacijama da bisam normalan cemo kaj? Pravite se da ih nema, je li? Koliko se za takve stvari po tebi leti?
Uopce se nije odnosilo na tebe, nego na sve redom koji tvrde da je jedan stav normalan, a suprotni nenormalan.
Iz ovoga bi se reklo da se malo i odnosilo |
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Tonto
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 15:41:33
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The less I have the more I am a happy man |
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Chief Warhead
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 15:44:59
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Kruger
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 16:22:10
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Originally posted by Jasko
A sad smeta? Prosto je, svako ko odbije bilo kakvu lekarsku pomoć, to radi na sopstvenu odgovornost.
Ovde nema solidarnosti, jer zbog nevakcinisanih onkološki, KV pacijenti ne mogu da se leče. Običan sebičluk, jer tako mali Perica zamišlja medicinu. Dva klika i sve zna.
Nisu problem necijepljeni već pravila koja određuju kapacitet.
Opet brkaš stvari. |
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BeaGea
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 16:28:44
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Originally posted by Chief Warhead
Dosadi je isključivost omiljena igračka, verovatno zato i toliko dosadan.
Ipak patuljci pojma nemaju.
Seks, seks, seks... |
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verab
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Macon
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Slovenia
1780 Posts
Member since 18/03/2005 |
Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:02:33
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Originally posted by BeaGea
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Originally posted by Macon
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8437699/
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The spike protein itself can be a toxin/pathogenic protein:
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S protein alone can damage vascular endothelial cells (ECs) by downregulating ACE2 and consequently inhibiting mitochondrial function [37].
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it is concluded that ACE2 and endothelial damage is a central part of SARS-CoV2 pathology and may be induced by the spike protein alone [38].
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the spike protein of SARS-CoV-1 (without the rest of the virus) reduces ACE2 expression, increases angiotensin II levels, exacerbates lung injury, and triggers cell signaling events that may promote pulmonary vascular remodeling and Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension (PAH) as well as possibly other cardiovascular complications [39].
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the recombinant S protein alone elicits functional alterations in cardiac vascular pericytes (PCs)
Poslije cepljenja su radili epidemiološke ankete u kojim su ljude pitali, kako se osječaju. Ali nisu jim testirali krv i biomarkere. Promjena biomarkera znači, da češ oboljeti od kronične boljesti jednom u budučnosti i nije isto ako se promjene 70 godišnjaku ili 18 godišnjaku, kome to može skratiti život.
Cijepljenje je vrlo vjerovatno teški zločin protiv mladih, sve više podataka je, da je tako. U SAD sad prave vakcine za bebe i žele pocjepiti i njih.
Do kad se misli tolerirati ovakve kretenizme!?
Nemam pojma, zašto se tolerira tvoje kretenizme.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
NCBI- The National Center for Biotechnology Information
Američka naučna organizacija. Za bezobraznike kao ti koji serete po viru kad ne možete dati ništa sadržajnoga. Stavio sam link na akademski vir sa brdom citata na kraju. Ajde, sakrij se u mišju rupu jer si manji od miša.
"The people with myriad comorbidities in the age range where most deaths with COVID-19 occurred were in very poor health. Their deaths did not seem to increase all-cause mortality as shown in several studies. If they hadn't died with COVID-19, they probably would have died from the flu or many of the other comorbidities they had. We can't say for sure that many/most died from COVID-19 because of: 1) how the PCR tests were manipulated to give copious false positives and 2) how deaths were arbitrarily attributed to COVID-19 in the presence of myriad comorbidities.
The graphs presented in this paper indicate that the frail injection recipients receive minimal benefit from the inoculation. Their basic problem is a dysfunctional immune system, resulting in part or in whole from a lifetime of toxic exposures and toxic behaviors. They are susceptible to either the wild virus triggering the dysfunctional immune system into over-reacting or under-reacting, leading to poor outcomes or the injection doing the same."
"The COVID-19 reported deaths are people who died with COVID-19, not necessarily from COVID-19. Likewise, the VAERS deaths are people who have died following inoculation, not necessarily from inoculation.
As stated before, CDC showed that 94 % of the reported deaths had multiple comorbidities, thereby reducing the CDC's numbers attributed strictly to COVID-19 to about 35,000 for all age groups. Given the number of high false positives from the high amplification cycle PCR tests, and the willingness of healthcare professionals to attribute death to COVID-19 in the absence of tests or sometimes even with negative PCR tests, this 35,000 number is probably highly inflated as well." |
www.maconcomics.com |
Edited by - Macon on 07/11/2021 17:14:33 |
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Macon
Senior Member
Slovenia
1780 Posts
Member since 18/03/2005 |
Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:05:52
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Originally posted by GGG
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Originally posted by Macon
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Originally posted by GGG
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Originally posted by Macon
Baš u tome je trik, nemaju nikakvog porasta infekcija. Link kaže svega 1000 (od 2.6 milijona ljudi).
Pogledaj neki grafički cocid tracker - ako s iprije imao 0, 1000 je ogromno. A i ti su koncentrirani na jugoistok https://covidlive.com.au/
Da imamo australske mjere, ne bi ga imali ni porasta ni tolikog broja infekcija.
Njima živi 2 od 2.6 milijona ljudi na jedni tački, u Perthu. 1000 nije ništa jer respiratorni virusi svugdje gaze svaku jesen i pomlad.
Australci su navodno priglup narod, a zapadni najviše (dva milijuna ne vidi to što ti vidiš), još dobro, da imaju tebe, da im ukažeš na skretanja i promašaje. Tko zna šta može 25M zavedenih i sluđenih glupsona napraviti ako se ih ne drži na kratko - moglo bi se ih cjepiti 80% ili više, pa si unište minihondrije za sljedečih 200 godina!
Ne pratim tog nivoja niti me zanima. Molim te, piši na neki dječji vrtič forum, da ti odgovore kako ti treba.
Jeste bezobrazni i prazni što ide sve do totalne gluposti. Otkud to vaše samouvjerenje, pojma nemam. Ah da, vi ste mainstream, vas je večina. Onda vama ne treba ništa drugo, to je dovoljno za bilo kakav bezobrazluk. |
www.maconcomics.com |
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manhunter
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Switzerland
26027 Posts
Member since 17/09/2004 |
Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:10:59
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Originally posted by Macon
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Originally posted by BeaGea
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Originally posted by Macon
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8437699/
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The spike protein itself can be a toxin/pathogenic protein:
2)
S protein alone can damage vascular endothelial cells (ECs) by downregulating ACE2 and consequently inhibiting mitochondrial function [37].
3)
it is concluded that ACE2 and endothelial damage is a central part of SARS-CoV2 pathology and may be induced by the spike protein alone [38].
4)
the spike protein of SARS-CoV-1 (without the rest of the virus) reduces ACE2 expression, increases angiotensin II levels, exacerbates lung injury, and triggers cell signaling events that may promote pulmonary vascular remodeling and Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension (PAH) as well as possibly other cardiovascular complications [39].
5)
the recombinant S protein alone elicits functional alterations in cardiac vascular pericytes (PCs)
Poslije cepljenja su radili epidemiološke ankete u kojim su ljude pitali, kako se osječaju. Ali nisu jim testirali krv i biomarkere. Promjena biomarkera znači, da češ oboljeti od kronične boljesti jednom u budučnosti i nije isto ako se promjene 70 godišnjaku ili 18 godišnjaku, kome to može skratiti život.
Cijepljenje je vrlo vjerovatno teški zločin protiv mladih, sve više podataka je, da je tako. U SAD sad prave vakcine za bebe i žele pocjepiti i njih.
Do kad se misli tolerirati ovakve kretenizme!?
Nemam pojma, zašto se tolerira tvoje kretenizme.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
NCBI- The National Center for Biotechnology Information
Američka naučna organizacija. Za bezobraznike kao ti koji serete po viru kad ne možete dati ništa sadržajnoga. Ajde, sakrij se u mišju rupu jer si manji od miša.
Sledeći put kada budeš delio ove linkove, onda prevedi ČITAV tekst, ili sažetak SVEGA što u njemu piše, bez izvlačenja iz konteksta. Poslednje upozorenje i tebi i svima drugima. Da ne bude posle zašto ključ. |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:13:35
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Inače, na toj stranici koju toliko voliš imaš na vrhu link na kojem piše:
CDC now recommends COVID-19 vaccines for children ages 5 through 11. |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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Macon
Senior Member
Slovenia
1780 Posts
Member since 18/03/2005 |
Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:16:26
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Originally posted by manhunter
Inače, na toj stranici koju toliko voliš imaš na vrhu link na kojem piše:
CDC now recommends COVID-19 vaccines for children ages 5 through 11.
Baš sam nalimao dio sažetka:
"The people with myriad comorbidities in the age range where most deaths with COVID-19 occurred were in very poor health. Their deaths did not seem to increase all-cause mortality as shown in several studies. If they hadn't died with COVID-19, they probably would have died from the flu or many of the other comorbidities they had. We can't say for sure that many/most died from COVID-19 because of: 1) how the PCR tests were manipulated to give copious false positives and 2) how deaths were arbitrarily attributed to COVID-19 in the presence of myriad comorbidities.
The graphs presented in this paper indicate that the frail injection recipients receive minimal benefit from the inoculation. Their basic problem is a dysfunctional immune system, resulting in part or in whole from a lifetime of toxic exposures and toxic behaviors. They are susceptible to either the wild virus triggering the dysfunctional immune system into over-reacting or under-reacting, leading to poor outcomes or the injection doing the same."
"The COVID-19 reported deaths are people who died with COVID-19, not necessarily from COVID-19. Likewise, the VAERS deaths are people who have died following inoculation, not necessarily from inoculation.
As stated before, CDC showed that 94 % of the reported deaths had multiple comorbidities, thereby reducing the CDC's numbers attributed strictly to COVID-19 to about 35,000 for all age groups. Given the number of high false positives from the high amplification cycle PCR tests, and the willingness of healthcare professionals to attribute death to COVID-19 in the absence of tests or sometimes even with negative PCR tests, this 35,000 number is probably highly inflated as well."
Pazite svi, ovo je najozbiljniji akademski vir i ne nešto bez veze. Šta CDC rekomenduje, nema veze sa ovim tekstom, to je barem jasno. |
www.maconcomics.com |
Edited by - Macon on 07/11/2021 17:46:07 |
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:17:08
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I još jednom.
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Originally posted by manhunter
Inače, na toj stranici koju toliko voliš imaš na vrhu link na kojem piše:
CDC now recommends COVID-19 vaccines for children ages 5 through 11.
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I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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Kruger
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Croatia
17304 Posts
Member since 25/10/2001 |
Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:18:02
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Manhunteru nisi baš korektan. Oni se prepucavaju a što je točno sami ćemo procijeniti. GGG se pokazao da baš voli zaobilaziti bitno ili ne odgovara kad ga poklopi bolji znanstvenik pa čak zna biti i podsprdljiv. I to se tolerira. Macon se ispočetka trudio biti korektan ali valjda nema živaca za pod.ebavanje pa je ovako malo nervozniji.
Dakle, bolje ključ nego podržavati samo jednu stranu. |
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Macon
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Kruger
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:22:29
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Originally posted by Macon
Baš tako. Trudim se pronalaziti kredibilne virove i stavove medicinskih stručnjaka.
Sve ok. Najnovije sa tih tvojih kredibilnih izvora izdvajamo:
CDC now recommends COVID-19 vaccines for children ages 5 through 11. |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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Kruger
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Croatia
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:22:55
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Originally posted by Macon
Baš tako. Trudim se pronalaziti kredibilne virove i stavove medicinskih stručnjaka. Baš sam dobio neki link iz Nature ali najprije ču ga bar malo pročitati.
Njima to ne odgovara.
Uvijek lijepe etikete antivaks budalaštien, nebuloze i što ja znam. Tako riješe problem ne moraju raspravljati jer su u prednosti kad nalijepe etiketu antivaks budalaštine. |
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manhunter
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Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:23:43
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Originally posted by Kruger
Manhunteru nisi baš korektan. Oni se prepucavaju a što je točno sami ćemo procijeniti. GGG se pokazao da baš voli zaobilaziti bitno ili ne odgovara kad ga poklopi bolji znanstvenik pa čak zna biti i podsprdljiv. I to se tolerira. Macon se ispočetka trudio biti korektan ali valjda nema živaca za pod.ebavanje pa je ovako malo nervozniji.
Dakle, bolje ključ nego podržavati samo jednu stranu.
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I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Member since 17/09/2004 |
Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:25:12
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Originally posted by Kruger
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Originally posted by Macon
Baš tako. Trudim se pronalaziti kredibilne virove i stavove medicinskih stručnjaka. Baš sam dobio neki link iz Nature ali najprije ču ga bar malo pročitati.
Njima to ne odgovara.
Uvijek lijepe etikete antivaks budalaštien, nebuloze i što ja znam. Tako riješe problem ne moraju raspravljati jer su u prednosti kad nalijepe etiketu antivaks budalaštine.
Nije tačno da "nam" ne odgovara. Evo, ja bih izdvojio sa te stranice sledeće:
CDC now recommends COVID-19 vaccines for children ages 5 through 11. |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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Kruger
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Croatia
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Member since 25/10/2001 |
Posted - 07/11/2021 : 17:28:06
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Originally posted by manhunter
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Originally posted by Kruger
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Originally posted by Macon
Baš tako. Trudim se pronalaziti kredibilne virove i stavove medicinskih stručnjaka. Baš sam dobio neki link iz Nature ali najprije ču ga bar malo pročitati.
Njima to ne odgovara.
Uvijek lijepe etikete antivaks budalaštien, nebuloze i što ja znam. Tako riješe problem ne moraju raspravljati jer su u prednosti kad nalijepe etiketu antivaks budalaštine.
Nije tačno da "nam" ne odgovara. Evo, ja bih izdvojio sa te stranice sledeće:
CDC now recommends COVID-19 vaccines for children ages 5 through 11.
Da i što s tim? Meni nije jasno što želiš s tim isticanjem reći? |
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BeaGea
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