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Just_Charlie
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Posted - 01/07/2015 : 19:07:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Just_Charlie's Homepage  Send Just_Charlie a Private Message  Reply with Quote


~ Prvo suputnik onda put ~
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 01/07/2015 : 21:16:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Moglo bi tu biti još svega, a mogla bi se EU i ozbiljno zaljuljati.


http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/cipras-popustio-i-izazvao-raskol-u-europi-hollande-zeli-dogovor-odmah-merkel-ne-zeli-ni-cuti/828341.aspx
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 01/07/2015 : 22:13:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vrlo zanimljiv komentar na Forum.tm-u:


http://www.forum.tm/vijesti/nije-grcki-nego-europski-bankrot-3379
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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Johnny Difool
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/07/2015 : 22:23:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hm, smrznem se na sam spomen građanskog rata.


http://www.jutarnji.hr/-sreca-sto-smo-etnicki-homogeni-jer-bi-ovo-bila-uvertira-za-gradanski-rat--/1375283/
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 00:32:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zanimljiv komentar Vuka Perišića na Tportalu, moral i elementarna logika:


http://www.tportal.hr/vijesti/komentari/387475/Kako-je-Syriza-postala-talac-svojih-populistickih-floskula.html
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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mladjo
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 08:41:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Difool

Zanimljiv komentar Vuka Perišića na Tportalu, moral i elementarna logika:


http://www.tportal.hr/vijesti/komentari/387475/Kako-je-Syriza-postala-talac-svojih-populistickih-floskula.html




Ljudi, obrtnici, poduzeća, banke i države svakodnevno ulaze u bezbrojne i raznolike dužničko-vjerovničke odnose, od kupovine kruha u pekari, preko nabavke čavala ili kupovine novca (kredit), do trgovine državnim obveznicama. Čitav taj sustav, vitalan za funkcioniranje civilizacije, počiva na drevnom načelu rimskog prava pacta sunt servanda: ugovore valja poštivati, dakle obveze valja ispunjavati i dugove treba vraćati. U suprotnom bi čovječanstvo ubrzo podleglo kaosu i nasilju.

U sveopćoj konfuziji pojmova, agresiji neznanja i antiliberalnoj histeriji pojavila su se mišljenja kako nije nemoralno vraćati dugove i kako su vjerovnici (!) krivi za nastanak duga i pritom se nonšalantno ignorira notorna činjenica da svaki dug nastaje slobodnom voljom dužnika.


Zamislite situaciju u kojoj prijatelju posuđujete tisuću kuna i on vam na dan dospijeća kaže kako vam novac neće vratiti jer nevraćanje dugova nije nemoralno, kako ste sami krivi što ste mu posudili novac i pritom vas optuži kao 'neoliberala' i eksponenta krupnog kapitala koji mu nameće štednju (a eto i nobelovac Paul Krugman kaže da je štednja pogubna) te kako ne može pristati na 'okove financijske discipline' jer mu tih tisuću kuna treba za 'razvoj'. Ako takvom (bivšem) prijatelju zaprijetite tužbom i ovrhom jamačno će uzvratiti da mu nemate pravo dirati u dostojanstvo.



Izvrstan tekst.
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panzer
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 09:29:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send panzer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-01/what-if-berlin-and-frankfurt-do-not-budge-how-varoufakis-saw-worst-case-scenario

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-01/desperate-greeks-resort-scavenging-through-garbage-find-food
Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier!
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mladjo
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 09:32:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kako je sa turistima?
da li npr. ja kao turist, dakle nerezident, mogu dizati novce s bankomata ioli za mene isto vrijede ograničenja?
I kako će netko tko dolazi autom uopće tankati auto ak nema goriva?
Misli mda će ova sezona biti apsolutni fijasko što znači da će ostati bez para od turizma, a što znači propast.

Jbga, domino efekt.
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Jasko
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 10:07:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Jasko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Goriva ima, s karticama imaju problema kod podizanja novca.
Nije tako crno, ali Hrvatska može da očekuje više gostiju zbog situacije u Grčkoj. Dok jednom ne smrkne, drugom ne svane.
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 10:14:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dsormaz1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Difool

Hm, smrznem se na sam spomen građanskog rata.


http://www.jutarnji.hr/-sreca-sto-smo-etnicki-homogeni-jer-bi-ovo-bila-uvertira-za-gradanski-rat--/1375283/



Etnička homogenost nije jamstvo da u nekoj državi ne može doći do građanskog rata.
Osim toga Grčka je između 1944.-49. bila u građanskom ratu između komunista i rojalista.
Edited by - dsormaz1 on 02/07/2015 10:14:53
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 10:16:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dsormaz1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.jutarnji.hr/eurozona-rekla-grckoj-da-novi-pregovori-ovise-o-rezultatu-referenduma/1375464/
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 10:20:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jasko

Goriva ima, s karticama imaju problema kod podizanja novca.
Nije tako crno, ali Hrvatska može da očekuje više gostiju zbog situacije u Grčkoj. Dok jednom ne smrkne, drugom ne svane.


je,Hr če se sigurno obogatit od ovoga a onda svi letimo na Martinik ladit jaja do kraja života.
jasko ne padaj na te jeftine napise,ako i bude koji turist više ništa
to ne znači za prosječnog građanina.
You stared at the abyss, you'll never rest in peace
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lwood
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 10:57:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/bih-na-rubu-ekonomske-katastrofe/828552.aspx
You stared at the abyss, you'll never rest in peace
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Poli
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 11:00:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote

http://www.mladina.si/167621/kako-je-bil-porabljen-denar-za-resevanje-grcije/
Anything is possible dec d uej
Be the Change You Want to See
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 11:18:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bojim se da znam što Grke s vremenom očekuje: vožnja par-nepar, redukcije struje, nestašice svega i svačega... otprilike sve ono što smo mi imali 80-ih.
Utjeha će im valjda biti da su ponosni pred Europom, da se nisu dali ucjenjivati, da nisu "spustili gaće"...
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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lwood
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 11:28:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Difool

Bojim se da znam što Grke s vremenom očekuje: vožnja par-nepar, redukcije struje, nestašice svega i svačega... otprilike sve ono što smo mi imali 80-ih.
Utjeha će im valjda biti da su ponosni pred Europom, da se nisu dali ucjenjivati, da nisu "spustili gaće"...




vjerovatno baš to.
pogotovo šta gotovo sve uvoze.
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mladjo
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 11:43:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jedan od najvećih problema će biti upravo pad turizma jer tu dolazi do velikog priljeva deviza, a ako nema turista, nema ni inozemnog priljeva novca.
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delboj
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 12:39:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send delboj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Samo im treba prepisati naš sistem, naše plate, penzije, naš način života ("snalaženja")... I nek preživljavaju.
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lwood
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 13:52:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/ljubo-jurcic-grcka-kriza-nece-utjecati-na-europu-mogu-slobodno-bankrotirati/828589.aspx

a stavili su i prigodnu fotku;u;ka da govori :ko in je.e mater"
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 14:00:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ne razumijem takva razmišljanja, "neće utjecati na nas i Europu" i zapravo "tko ih jebe": pa svi su (smo) povezani eurom ili tečajem fiksiranim uz euro, bankama, trgovinom... i kako može netko ostati makar neokrznut, a i ozbiljnije oštećen.
Više ili manje, ovisno o stupnju bilaterale i izloženosti, ali svakako ugrožen.
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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lwood
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Posted - 02/07/2015 : 15:49:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
to kaže ovaj biser jurčič.
meni se pak čini da bi ako se neke stvari nastave moglo pomalo otič sve ne u 3 nego u 33 pm.
cili jugoistok evrope postaje extremno nestabilan.
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 03/07/2015 : 09:05:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Polemični i euro-kritični Georg Diez u Der Spiegelu:


http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/gesellschaft/georg-diez-ueber-die-berichterstattung-zu-griechenland-a-1040882.html


I u srpskom prijevodu na Peščaniku:


http://pescanik.net/propagandna-masina/
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 03/07/2015 : 09:07:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ista takva Zoe Williams u The Guardianu...


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/28/greece-europe-imf-democracy?CMP=fb%20qu


...i na Peščaniku:


http://pescanik.net/moralni-krstaski-rat-protiv-grcke/
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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panzer
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Posted - 03/07/2015 : 09:17:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send panzer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-02/china-state-official-hints-beijing-may-bailout-greece

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-02/greek-banks-run-out-physical-cash-matter-days

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-02/how-greece-has-fallen-victim-economic-hit-men

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-02/finally-truth-greek-debt-so-big-everyone-understands-it-won%E2%80%99t-be-repaid

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-02/varoufakis-will-resign-if-referendum-passes-says-would-rather-cut-arm-sign

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-02/russia-gets-involved-tells-europe-respect-greek-choice
Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier!
Edited by - panzer on 03/07/2015 09:33:30
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 03/07/2015 : 10:06:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dsormaz1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.jutarnji.hr/narod-okrenuo-leda-tsiprasu-posljednje-ankete-govore-da-ce-grci-na-referendumu-izglasati--za--/1376225/

http://www.jutarnji.hr/schulz-se-nada-imenovanju-vlade-strucnjaka-u-grckoj/1375976/

Vlada "stručnjaka".
Kako to lijepo zvuči.
Edited by - dsormaz1 on 03/07/2015 10:19:59
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