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surfer
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 09:05:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send surfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Inace, u sjeni cijele ove sapunice je jucer, nakon Tsiprasa, Evropski parlament na brzinu izglasao - uz minimalne zamjerke - suglasnost za pregovore o TTIP sporazumu, sto je tema koja bi ljude trebala vise zanimati nego ovo.
Ali tabloidi su sve preuzeli i sve ostalo pada u sjenu.
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surfer
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 09:10:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send surfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A vidi ovaj slucaj:

Koruska u Austriji je prakticno pred kolapsom jer su za sve sto je radila Hypo banka davali drzavne garancije i nakon propasti banke je ispalo da se to popelo na 10 milijardi EUR.

Za prvu ruku je stigla pozajmica iz Beca od 300 miliona EUR za ovu godinu jer bi inace morali zatvoriti bolnice itd.

I jucer su rekli vjerovnicima, evo pogledajte kad sve zbrojimo i vidite sto imamo, to je sve skupa 1 milijarda EUR.

Pa bi mi mogli isplatiti tu 1 milijardu, ali ako se vi obavezete da cete odustati od svih daljnjih potrazivanja...
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 09:14:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Neka Koruškoj najprije otpišu pola duga a onda je izbace iz eurozone!

Zašto strogost i disciplinu trenirati samo na Grčkoj?
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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lwood
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 09:23:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Difool

Eurogrupa od Grčke traži deranje stanovništva ali poštedu korporacija uz nultu stopu poreza na prihode iznad 500 000 eura.
Sasvim očekivano.


http://www.forum.tm/vijesti/eurogrupa-grckoj-rezite-socijalu-i-mirovine-ukinite-subvencije-samo-ne-dirajte-korporacije




pa uvik traže socijalne rezove. to mmf stalno radi
You stared at the abyss, you'll never rest in peace
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lwood
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 09:24:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Difool

Neka Koruškoj najprije otpišu pola duga a onda je izbace iz eurozone!

Zašto strogost i disciplinu trenirati samo na Grčkoj?




jerbo to Austrija može riješit sama
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surfer
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 09:35:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send surfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A sad im je Moody's snizio rating na Ba2 pa su i ti krediti iz Beca postali skuplji.

"Ramsch" bi se moglo provesti kao "škart" :-)

A to je samo dio cijelog debalka, jer se drzava tuzi sa Bavarskom oko stete, u bad bank Heta su prebacili milijarde koje su otpisali jer su banku prvo privatizirali itd.


http://diepresse.com/home/wirtschaft/economist/4769909/Moodys-senkt-Kaerntens-Bonitaet-auf-RamschNiveau?direct=4770879&_vl_backlink=/home/wirtschaft/economist/4770879/index.do&selChannel=&from=articlemore


A da komedija bude jos veca, sad su i angazirali kao savjetnika za 30 miliona $ nekog Franzuca iz USA firme koji je donedavno savjetovao i Tsiprasa.

Kazu da specijaliziran je "beznadezne slucajeve".

http://www.kleinezeitung.at/s/wirtschaft/hypo/4771272/HypoBadBank_Heta_Kaernten-holt-Berater-der-Griechen


quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Difool

Neka Koruškoj najprije otpišu pola duga a onda je izbace iz eurozone!

Zašto strogost i disciplinu trenirati samo na Grčkoj?
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izivko
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 09:45:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Difool

Eurogrupa od Grčke traži deranje stanovništva ali poštedu korporacija uz nultu stopu poreza na prihode iznad 500 000 eura.
Sasvim očekivano.


http://www.forum.tm/vijesti/eurogrupa-grckoj-rezite-socijalu-i-mirovine-ukinite-subvencije-samo-ne-dirajte-korporacije




pa uvik traže socijalne rezove. to mmf stalno radi

Negdje se pila a negdje reže. Kako bi elita lagodno živila, mora se rezati
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 10:25:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dsormaz1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.jutarnji.hr/grcka-priprema-reforme-teske-12-milijardi-eura-posljednji-pokusaj-spasa-za-propalo-gospodarstvo/1379468/
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lwood
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 10:25:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
elita če uvik lagodno živit inače ne bi bila elita
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izivko
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 10:51:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lako je pametnim dok ima budala
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izivko
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 16:39:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Njemačka brzo zaboravlja
Na konferenciji u Londonu Njemačkoj je oprošteno više od polovice dugova iz rata što je bio temelj njemačkog gospodarskog čuda

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/griechenland-krise-usa-draengen-auf-schuldenschnitt-a-1042807.html


London, 27 Februar 1953

Samo da nadodam, jedna od zemalja koja je oprostila Njemačkoj dugove je bila i Grčka
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Edited by - izivko on 09/07/2015 16:43:08
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surfer
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 17:16:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send surfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Upravo sada sam to citao .-)

Evo i dobrog teksta o kritici momentalne njemacke politike prema Grckoj americkih dobitnika Nobelove nagrade Josefa Stiglitza i Paula Krugmana koji kritiziraju vjerovnike na celu s Njemackom zbog prisiljavanja Grcke na mjere koje su dovele do siromastva, ulaska u jos vecu depresiju i smanjenja ekonomskog rasta.

http://www.derwesten.de/politik/griechenland-us-kritik-an-merkel-aimp-id10865529.html
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izivko
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Posted - 09/07/2015 : 17:58:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Metode njem. ministra financija Schäublea porede s metodama srednjevjekovnih liječnika koji svojim pacijentima puštaju krv
a ako ih to ne izliječi odnosno ako budu još bolesniji, onda puštaj još više krvi dok bolesnik ne iskrvari!
Dobro rečeno
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lwood
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 07:25:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/grcka-od-kreditora-trazi-535-milijardi-eura/829977.aspx
You stared at the abyss, you'll never rest in peace
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izivko
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 07:46:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jebiga kad čitaš te portale gdje rade nepismeni novinari.
Radi se o 53,5 milijardi € do kraja 2018
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surfer
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 07:53:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send surfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Upravo tako.

I te 53 milijardje nisu Grci izmislili, nego je to cifra koju je prije par dana MMF izracunao da im je potrebna, ukoliko kreditori inzistiraju na ovim rokovima otplate i ne ponude restrukturiranje.

Grci su sinoc u roku predali prijedlog paketa mjera, o njemu ce vec danas odluciti parlament u Ateni.

Paket sadrzi dosta stvari koje je Tsipras do sada odbijao, de facto snizenje mirovina, poveceanje PDV-a, privatizacija autoputa, zeljeznice,aerodroma, Telekoma, pristanista (ukljucujuci i Pirej),
ukidanje poreznih olaksica za otoke, odlazak u mirovinu sa 67 godina itd.

Aerodrome treba preuzeti, zajedno sa jednim grckim partnerom, kako je ranije odluceno, prije nego je Tsipras dosao na vlast, firma Fraport iz, naravno, Frankfurta.

Tako da ce skoro sigurno dosta zastupnika njegove stranke glasati protiv, a podrska se dogovara sa opozicijskim strankama.
Edited by - surfer on 10/07/2015 08:07:36
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lwood
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 09:06:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

Jebiga kad čitaš te portale gdje rade nepismeni novinari.
Radi se o 53,5 milijardi € do kraja 2018


a to je malo?
You stared at the abyss, you'll never rest in peace
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izivko
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 09:15:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
U svakom slučaju manje od 535
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lwood
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 09:28:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

U svakom slučaju manje od 535




pa piše ti u naslovu 53,5.
ne registriraš zareze ili šta?
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izivko
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 09:39:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lwood

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/grcka-od-kreditora-trazi-535-milijardi-eura/829977.aspx



Ne čitam ja to smeće a iz linka se vidi da je 535
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lwood
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 09:41:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

quote:
Originally posted by lwood

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/grcka-od-kreditora-trazi-535-milijardi-eura/829977.aspx



Ne čitam ja to smeće a iz linka se vidi da je 535


jeba te link pa valjda znaš kliknit mišen
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izivko
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 09:43:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by izivko

quote:
Originally posted by lwood

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/grcka-od-kreditora-trazi-535-milijardi-eura/829977.aspx



Ne čitam ja to smeće a iz linka se vidi da je 535


jeba te link pa valjda znaš kliknit mišen

Ma znam ali ne bih gubio vrijeme na to smeće od novine
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 09:47:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Na referendumu su malo nabildali nacionalni ponos i prkos, a sad sve po starom:


http://www.jutarnji.hr/grcka-odobrila-paket-mjera-stednje-predstavit-ce-ga-kreditorima-kroz-nekoliko-sati/1379903/
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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lwood
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 09:50:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by izivko

quote:
Originally posted by lwood

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/grcka-od-kreditora-trazi-535-milijardi-eura/829977.aspx



Ne čitam ja to smeće a iz linka se vidi da je 535


jeba te link pa valjda znaš kliknit mišen

Ma znam ali ne bih gubio vrijeme na to smeće od novine


ma nije to novina nego portal
a vijest je prava.
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lwood
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Posted - 10/07/2015 : 09:50:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Difool

Na referendumu su malo nabildali nacionalni ponos i prkos, a sad sve po starom:


http://www.jutarnji.hr/grcka-odobrila-paket-mjera-stednje-predstavit-ce-ga-kreditorima-kroz-nekoliko-sati/1379903/




da se kladimo da če Grci opet zajebat ako in daju pare?
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